This is a case that I have been working on recently. I finally got Support to change the record, but someone is messing around with Zopher's family. More on that later.
Unknown individual to me
Salomon Gee Person identifier: M5V7-8KM
There are two combined records both from Family Search for this individual.
Possible duplicates reveals only one individual, Salmon Gee Person identifier: KWJP-41C with 50 combined records.
On
July 21, 2011 I sent the following e-mail to those contributors that
were listed on the record at that time. Today the only Contributors
that are listed on the record are as noted above. (Family Search)
Dear patrons,
My
cousin Janet Pollei brought the following problem to my attention. I
would appreciate it if you would look this over and see if you have any
more information that I might not be aware of. I would like to make
sure that we have the correct data before NFS switches entirely to
Family Tree.
This is taken from C.E. Benjamin’s book; “The Descendants of Solomon Gee of Lyme Connecticut”.
40. ZOPHER GEE, (William, Solomon), b. 28 AUG 1763 Lyme, New London Co.,
Conn.
d ..14 AUG 1829 New Lyme, Ashtabula Co., Ohio married 13 NOV 1788 Lyme,
Conn. Esther Beckwith b. 6 JUN 1770 Lyme, New London Co., Conn. d. 31
AUG 1794 Lyme, Conn. bur. Old Stone Church Cemetery, Lyme, Conn.
daughter of Zenas Beckwith and Anna Harris.
Only three children are listed for this marriage.
Esther Beckwith Person identifier: LZ2H-WP7
38 contributors to her record
52 combined records.
NFS Lists a son Salomon Gee Person identifier: M5V7-8KM
2 combined Records both by Contact name: Alice Colby Volkert
This additional child was not present a couple of months ago when I looked at the record.
Date
of birth is listed as 31 August 1794, the day that Esther Beckwith
died. There is no death date noted for this person in the record.
All
the ordinance work for this individual has been performed except the
endowment which is reserved by Contact name: ChristensenGeraldineHope1
E-mail address:geri.christensen@gmail.com
Esther Gee, the third child of Zopher and Esther was born 6 of July 1794 in Lyme, New London Connecticut.
It seems strange to have twin children born so far apart with no family record of the occurrence.
In the notes on Salomon we find the following: Contributor: Alice Colby Volkert
Contributor: FamilySearch
Sources
are ContributorFamilySearch Source Source type: Other, Repository name:
The Temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
Repository city: Salt Lake City, Repository state: UT, Repository
country: USA, Repository postal code: 84150, Event date: 20 Mar 2007,
LDS temple record number: 725155093, Contributor: TEMPLE, Contributor of
repository: DATA_ADMIN Source Source type: Other, Repository name: The
Temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Repository
city: Salt Lake City, Repository state: UT, Repository country: USA,
Repository postal code: 84150, Event date: 20 Mar 2007, LDS temple
record number: 725155097, Contributor: TEMPLE, Contributor of
repository: DATA_ADMIN Source Source type: Other, Repository name: The
Temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Repository
city: Salt Lake City, Repository state: UT, Repository country: USA,
Repository postal code: 84150, Event date: 20 Mar 2007, LDS temple
record number: 725155092, Contributor: TEMPLE, Contributor of
repository: DATA_ADMIN Source Source type: Other, Repository name: The
Temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Repository
city: Salt Lake City, Repository state: UT, Repository country: USA,
Repository postal code: 84150, Event date: 20 Mar 2007, LDS temple
record number: 725155095, Contributor: TEMPLE, Contributor of
repository: DATA_ADMIN [ These records come from the proxy ordinances
performed as listed below]
Kevin Merrill Contact name: Kevin L Merrill E-mail address:merrill30@gmail.com
Contributed to the record
The ordinances listed in NFS are:
Baptism 26 Feb. 1999 Los Angeles
Confirmation 10 June 2000 Detroit
Initiatory 14 September 200 Detroit
Endowment Reserved
Sealed to Parents 24 July 2003 Detroit
Possible Duplicates
Salmon Gee spouse Sarah Watson Crane MMQ4-BCQ
(This is the older sibling of the individual in question.)
Salmon Gee spouse Deborah Reed. KWJP-41C
(This
is the same older sibling of the individual in question. Lysander Gee
sealed Deborah Reed to his father Salmon in the Logan Temple 6 September
1888, ninety-eight years after her birth. Deobrah Reed was Lysander’s
wife’s (Theresa Bowley) aunt. This was never a marriage in their
lifetime.
I do not believe the individual Salomon Gee Person
identifier: M5V7-8KM ever existed as a son of Zopher Gee and Esther
Beckwith. There is no documentary evidence of this event.
Esther
only had three children and not four. In comparing the dates of birth
of Salomon to his supposed sister Esther, New Family Search records
indicate that Esther was born 6 July 1794 and Salomon was born 31 July
1794, the day that Esther Gee died.
Where did the record come from?
I think that perhaps someone combined a possible duplicate that was
floating around in the NFS database, perhaps from extraction. It
certainly did not come from someone familiar with the Gee family
genealogy.
I would appreciate any enlightenment that you might be privy to.
Sincerely,
Laurence Gee, M.D.
On
looking at the record in Family Tree Alice Colby Volkert removed the
relationship of this individual to Zopher and Esther as parents on 21
July, 2012.
I would appreciate it if you would consider this
information and then decide whether it would be better for DATA
ADMINISTRATION to deal with this problem.
Sincerely,
Laurence Gee
Dear Ivin Laurence Gee,
RE: Salomon Gee
Thank you for contacting FamilySearch Data Administration. We have
edited the record for Salomon Gee and he no longer appears with these
incorrect parents. Thank you for bringing this concern to our attention.
Sincerely,
FamilySearch Data Administration
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Tuesday, July 31, 2012
How many times does it take?
My wife and I are going on a cruise at the end of next month. One of the places that we are going to visit is Scotland. I looked in my database to find those ancestors that came form Scotland. The Kerr family came to America from Scotland. My database was incomplete, so I went to New Family Search to see if there was any information. I looked at Robert Marion Kerr and saw that someone had again combined the records so that there is now a loop and William Jasper Kerr the grandson of William Jasper Kerr is again married to his grandmother (shocking, who would want to be married to his grandmother?).
I had already tackled this problem twice before and thought I had it resolved. I wrote this up as an Adventure in New Family Search over a year ago.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxlYWdsZXJpZGdlbmZzfGd4OjYxMWUyNGUyY2JlMWJkNTE&pli=1
I was disconcerted to say the least. I again reopened the case in Family Search Support. We will have to see what happens. Stay tuned.
I had already tackled this problem twice before and thought I had it resolved. I wrote this up as an Adventure in New Family Search over a year ago.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxlYWdsZXJpZGdlbmZzfGd4OjYxMWUyNGUyY2JlMWJkNTE&pli=1
I was disconcerted to say the least. I again reopened the case in Family Search Support. We will have to see what happens. Stay tuned.
Friday, July 6, 2012
If at first you don't succeed Google it
I was looking for Ray Martindale, the brother of Roy who was killed in the fire in Garland. I did not find any information in my usual sources. My wife, Alice, said "Have you tried Google? I always try Google." I admit that I did not try Google. So taking my wife's advice, I did a search for Ray Martindale. This is what I found.
"Ray Martindale, age 64, of Bolivar, Missouri passed away at 10:00am, Monday, August 24, 2009 at his home in Bolivar, Missouri.
He was born October 31, 1944 in Burley, Idaho to Earl Martindale and Geneva Coleman Martindale.
Ray worked as a grounds keeper for the State Of Nevada, then worked for Aarons Automotive from 1992-2003.
He was preceded in death by two brothers, Jay Martindale, Roy Martindale and a sister, Iris Allen.
Ray is survived by two sisters, Veral Boehm of Texas, Linda Galow of Heyburn, Idaho, sister-in-law, Teresa Martindale of Twin Falls, Idaho, and very good friends, Richard & Dorothy Wales of Bolivar, Missouri.
Per Rays wishes he will be cremated. No services are scheduled at this time. Cremation services are under the care and direction of the Butler Funeral Home in Bolivar, Missouri.
Friends may sign the guest book or send private condolences at www.butlerfuneralhome.com"
This gave me the married name of his sisters, Veral and Linda.
Knowing that he had died I looked in the Social Security Death Index and found him there as well.
SSDI
Ray
Middle Name:
Last Name: Martindale
Birth Date: 31 October 1944
Social Security Number: 519-52-2672
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence: Polk, Missouri
Zip Code of Last Residence: 65613
Death Date: 24 August 2009
Estimated Age at Death: 65
Taking heart and knowing that Iris was dead and knowing her last name to be Allen, I looked in the SSDI and found:
First Name: Iris
Middle Name: L
Last Name: Allen
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 14 April 1936
Social Security Number: 518-40-1865
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence:
Zip Code of Last Residence:
Death Date: 29 November 1991
Estimated Age at Death: 55
I thought I might as well try and Google the living sisters. I found a Veral Boehm on Facebook in Texas. She is a "biker" not the kind that you peddle, but the Harley-Davidson kind of biker.
I was unable to find Linda in Heyburn, Idaho, but that is a task for another time.
Naturally I entered all this information into my database and New Family Search,
Next time I will not forget to Google.
"Ray Martindale, age 64, of Bolivar, Missouri passed away at 10:00am, Monday, August 24, 2009 at his home in Bolivar, Missouri.
He was born October 31, 1944 in Burley, Idaho to Earl Martindale and Geneva Coleman Martindale.
Ray worked as a grounds keeper for the State Of Nevada, then worked for Aarons Automotive from 1992-2003.
He was preceded in death by two brothers, Jay Martindale, Roy Martindale and a sister, Iris Allen.
Ray is survived by two sisters, Veral Boehm of Texas, Linda Galow of Heyburn, Idaho, sister-in-law, Teresa Martindale of Twin Falls, Idaho, and very good friends, Richard & Dorothy Wales of Bolivar, Missouri.
Per Rays wishes he will be cremated. No services are scheduled at this time. Cremation services are under the care and direction of the Butler Funeral Home in Bolivar, Missouri.
Friends may sign the guest book or send private condolences at www.butlerfuneralhome.com"
This gave me the married name of his sisters, Veral and Linda.
Knowing that he had died I looked in the Social Security Death Index and found him there as well.
SSDI
Ray
Middle Name:
Last Name: Martindale
Birth Date: 31 October 1944
Social Security Number: 519-52-2672
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence: Polk, Missouri
Zip Code of Last Residence: 65613
Death Date: 24 August 2009
Estimated Age at Death: 65
Taking heart and knowing that Iris was dead and knowing her last name to be Allen, I looked in the SSDI and found:
First Name: Iris
Middle Name: L
Last Name: Allen
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 14 April 1936
Social Security Number: 518-40-1865
Place of Issuance: Idaho
Last Residence:
Zip Code of Last Residence:
Death Date: 29 November 1991
Estimated Age at Death: 55
I thought I might as well try and Google the living sisters. I found a Veral Boehm on Facebook in Texas. She is a "biker" not the kind that you peddle, but the Harley-Davidson kind of biker.
I was unable to find Linda in Heyburn, Idaho, but that is a task for another time.
Naturally I entered all this information into my database and New Family Search,
Next time I will not forget to Google.
Thursday, July 5, 2012
Following Up
Yesterday I posted some information about some third cousins, the Martindales. The mother was killed in a fire along with her son. I thought that I would see if I could learn more about the incident and so today I called the newspaper in Tremonton to see if they would have any information about a fire in 1946 in Garland. I gave the lady who answered the phone the particulars; names, and dates. When I looked on my e-mail this afternoon, she had scanned in the article and e-mailed it to me as an attachment. The link is below:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1T4OBXjjmia7GssPxCVU1RCITqHRO2o5Kftlwq96WUeYmJ5m26lZ1Y4FOp5xM/edit
I was able to find two more children in the family and the exact marriage date for Earl and Geneva Martindale.
Since I am not in correspondence with any members of that family, I am curious to know if Earl remarried. I did not find a record in the Western Marriage index on the BYUIdaho site, so I am hoping there will be information in Earl's Obituary. They are looking that up for me.
And so the work goes on.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1T4OBXjjmia7GssPxCVU1RCITqHRO2o5Kftlwq96WUeYmJ5m26lZ1Y4FOp5xM/edit
I was able to find two more children in the family and the exact marriage date for Earl and Geneva Martindale.
Since I am not in correspondence with any members of that family, I am curious to know if Earl remarried. I did not find a record in the Western Marriage index on the BYUIdaho site, so I am hoping there will be information in Earl's Obituary. They are looking that up for me.
And so the work goes on.
Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Comparing Data
This entry is about comparing my data with New Family Search. I have entered it into my Eagleridge NFS website.
Here is the link.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxlYWdsZXJpZGdlbmZzfGd4OjMyMDFiMDk3OWRhNzg2MzU&pli=1
Here is the link.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxlYWdsZXJpZGdlbmZzfGd4OjMyMDFiMDk3OWRhNzg2MzU&pli=1
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