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Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Histories of Amanda Sagers Gee

I have been trying to clear up the information on New Family Search. My great-grandfather's sister Caroline Gee McGavin has a second husband listed by the name of Frances Gates. This is surely an error. In order to prove this I needed a history of Caroline Gee so I sent out an e-mail using SahringTime.com. I later found her history on my computer. As a result of the e-mail I got a response from a descendant of Orlando Lysander Gee the son of Lysander Gee and Amanda Melvina Sagers. It was not about Caroline, but about Amanda.

This is the information. I edited it and sent it back to her. This is the edited copy:

From Helen Wilden

Amanda Melvina Sagers, the youngest child of John Sagers and Amy Sweet, was born 5 May 1821 in Hanover, NY. When she was 12 years old, she was living in Elk Creek, Erie, Pennsylvania where she was baptized 28 Mar 1833. The family moved to Kirtland for two years--Amanda going with her mother, Amy, who was divorced from her father and had married second, Ira Clothier. When her sister, Mariah Sagers Fisk, moved to Missouri in 1835, Amanda was probably in the same wagon train with the rest of the family. They moved to Far West in 1838 where Amanda met and married Lysander Gee on 5 Sep 1838. He was born in 1818 to Salmon Gee and Sarah Watson Crane in Ashtubula, Ohio. His father, Salmon Gee was born in 1792 in Lyme, New London, CT. to Zopher Gee and Esther. Zopher was born in 1763, in New London, CT.

Less than two months after her marriage, Governor Boggs issued the exterminating order, which ordered the Mormons to leave Missouri or be killed. Amanda and Lysander went to Quincy, Adams, IL where their first child was born on 12 Dec 1839. They are in the Bear Creek branch at Hancock IL on 1 Dec 1840. Amanda and Lysander had 3 children: Orlander[1] Lysander Gee b. 1839; Mary Gee b. 1840[2]; and Rozelia Gee b. 1848. Little Mary died in 1850[3]. Amanda received her endowments and was sealed to Lysander on 4 Feb 1846. The Gees went to St. Louis, MO where Amanda died. Amanda either died in childbirth[4] with Rozelia or soon after her birth as her death is recorded as 22 Oct 1848.

The Journal History reports that on 4 Jul 1849, Lysander Gee, wife, Theresa, and son, Orlando and daughter, Rosilia [Rozelia], left the Missouri River in George A. Smith's Fourth Company for the west. They arrived in the Valley Oct 27, 1849. They remained in Salt Lake about six years. In 1855, moved to Tooele. Lysander Gee is on the 1860 Census in Tooele City, Tooele, UT with 12 year old Rozelia; his second wife, Thersa [Theresa Bowley Gee] and their 10 children. Lysander apparently stayed close to the Sagers family through the years



[1] Orlando. It may have been pronounced Orlander, but later documents have the spelling Orlando. Orlando named a son Orlando Lafayette.

[2] I have no documentary evidence that there was a child by the name of Mary. She is not listed with Lysander, Orlando, Theresa, and Theresa and Lysander’s child Rozelia in the George A. Smith Company that crossed the plains.

[3] If Mary died in 1850 and was indeed the daughter of Amanda, then she must have stayed and come with the Sagers to the Salt Lake valley. She was not listed in the 1850 Utah census living with Lysander and Theresa and Lysander’s third wife Maryette Rowe. It is my presumption that the inclusion of Mary in the family of Lysander and Amanda comes from an interpretation of the 1850 Utah census. Here is a link to my interpretation of the census: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxseXNhbmRlcmdlZXdlYnNpdGV8Z3g6MmUwYTliNTJkNWJjNzA4OA&pli=1

[4] Amanda may have died in childbirth, but not with Rozelia, because Rozelia was the first child and first daughter of Lysander’s second wife Theresa.

I then looked into my records and found the following history which parallels the one above.

The following comes from Sarah Gee Barton a descendant of Amanda Melvina Sagers.

Amanda Melvina Sagers 1821-1848

Amanda, the youngest child of John and Amy Sweet Sagers, was born in Hanover, New York. May 5, 1821. Nothing is known of her youth. We do know that when 12 years of age she was living in Elk Creek, Eric County, Pennsylvania. March 28, 1833, she was baptized by Evan M. Greene and John B. Boynton. See Journal History for that date. She followed her mother to Kirtland where she remained at least two years.

We do know that her sister. Mariah Sagers Fisk, moved to Missouri in August 1835, so we can easily believe that Amy Clothier and Amanda were in the same wagon train.

After the death of Mariah in September. 1835, we believe Amanda accompanied the Clothiers to Far West. We know Amanda lived in Far West till 1838 for that is where she met and married Lysander Gee. September 5, 1838.

Fifty-two days later. Governor Boggs issued his famous exterminating order, which gave the Gees and all Saints the choice between banishment and death. This was not a pleasant prospect for the newlyweds. Amanda and Lysander met the challenge by moving to Quincy, Adams County, Illinois. In Quincy their first and only child was born, Orlando Lysander Gee, December 12,1839.

After the arrival of Orlando we do not know how long the Gees remained in Quincy. We do know that Lysander was ordained an Elder April 6. 1840 by William Smith. The General conference of the Church was held at that day in Nauvoo so the author believes the ordination took place in Nauvoo.

Lysander served as a Missionary in Iowa in 1844. In 1845, he was made a member of the 31st Quorum of Seventies. Lysander was born in Austinburg, Ohio, September 1, 1818, the son of Salmon and Sarah Watson Crane Gee. His pedigree, with 56 known ancestors, shows he came from the same progenitors that Joseph Smith did. His father, Salmon, was a member of the First Seven Presidents of Seventies from April 6, 1837, to March 6, 1838.

The author believes the Gees moved to Nauvoo before the April Conference of 1840. The Nauvoo Temple records show that Amanda was endowed the same day she was sealed to Lysander (February 4, 1846). Lysander had previously been endowed (January 6, 1846). Lysander believed in polygamy, as proof the Nauvoo Temple records show he married Theresa Rowley February 12, 1846.

It is very probable that the Gees accompanied Harrison Sagers to St. Louis in May 1846. The report of Joseph A. Stratton also states that another member was living in polygamy. That other member was Lysander Gee. Lysander did not remain long in polygamy, however, for on October 22, 1848, Amanda died.

How long the Gees remained in St. Louis after her passing is unknown. The Journal History solves this problem. That reliable authority reports (July 4, 1849), that Lysander Gee, wife Theresa, son Orlando, and daughter Rosilia, left the Missouri River in George A. Smith's Fourth Company for the west. They arrived in the Valley October 27, 1849. A nephew of Amanda was in this same Company, John Sagers Eaton.

Lysander and family remained in Salt Lake City about six years. Meanwhile. February 10, 1850, Lysander went into polygamy again. He married Marzella Rowe. About 1855, the family moved to Tooele, there Lysander spent the rest of his life. In the August election of 1878, Lysander was elected the first Prosecuting Attorney of Tooele County.

Lysander died June 27, 1894 - exactly 50 years after the Prophet's death. At the time of his death, Lysander was the father of 11 children, the grandfather of 16. His son Orlando, married Mary E. Bates. In 1888, Orlando moved to Oakley, Idaho, where he spent the rest of his life.


The following are my comments;

The Author of this history is not cited. There are a few inaccurate statements.

Lysander’s second wife was Theresa Bowley not Rowley.

Lysander’s daughter by Theresa was Rozelia according to the papers of Lysander Gee.

Lysander’s third wife was Maryette Rowe Gates Gee not Marzella.

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